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and solutions to our problems, to our economy, education, health care. and president obama is talking about government solutions. it's a very different vision that the two men have. i think president obama, also, seemed a little beif yofuddled. i'm not sure he's used to be challenged and he seemed like he was looking for his tell prompter. he didn't seem to be the crisp speaker that hes when he performed. a lot of hesitation and a lot of note taking. it seemed that he was surprised by maybe how effective the romney assault was on him. he's kind of used to not being questioned that way. >> mr. mayor, let me ask you about one substantive matter than the style. it struck me and i think a lot of observers when mr. romney essentially, disavowed the tax plan he's been running on. he's been very explicit about wanting cut tax rates across the board by 20% which would cut $5 trillion in revenue out of the government coffers. he said that was not his plan even though he's been running on that for a year and a half. that was a very surprising policy shift. did you see that come something. >> you know
clinton campaign last time around and this time, of course, with president obama. let's talk about the president obama who showed up. who was that man who showed up on that stage wednesday night? and why didn't he, with plenty of room to maneuver, why didn't he go after mitt romney on taxes, and deficits and the accounting line? just seemed that there were so many opportunities that were missed that night. >> i don't think it was the president's best night, but i think one of the other big things that happened that night was the -- astonishing walking away or effort to walk away by governor romney of some of the most -- some of the key proposals he's been making for 18 straight months. you know, on the central issue of taxes, he's been saying every day for 18 months that he wants a 20% cut in marginal tax rates and he'll figure out a way that won't increase the deficit. well there's only one way to make that happen, that is to raise the tax burden on middle income americans. the number on his tax cut is $5 trillion. because he's talking about a 20% cut in marginal rates, eliminatin
would say good news politically for president obama because now the talking point that republicans have used effectively for quite some time to say, you know, 42 straight months of an unemployment over 8%, unemployment had been over 8% every month since barack obama took office, they no longer can say that. to your point it didn't drop to 4%, it's still 7.8%. i would say if you ask barack obama on the day he took office if he -- if he thought unemployment at 7.8% would be okay in the month before he needed to run for re-election, he would not be happy with that number, but it's about the trend line, the trend line suggests and again, one month is not determinative but suggests that perhaps things are the economy is strengthening a little bit. that's the argument obama needs. he needs data points to say it's not perfect, i know that, not everything i've done is perfect to fix it, but it's slowly but surely a lurching toward getting better. >> the republicans will focus on the slowly part of that, only 114,000 new jobs added, anemic by any measure and the overall growth of the economy is
that will give people better job security. >> chris: let's talk specifics. >> president barack obama: no matter how many times they tell you they are going to talk specifics, really soon... they don't do it! and, the reason is, because the math doesn't work. >> chris: you are the master of the budget, briefly, let's go through the plan. the obama camp says independent groups say if you cut those tax rates for everybody, 20%, it costs $5 trillion over ten years. true? >> not in least the bit true. look, this goes to show if you tor fewer statistics... that study has been so discredited. it wasn't a measurement of mitt romney and his policy. here's what we are saying -- >> how much would it cost. >> revenue-neutral. >> chris: i'm talking about the -- we'll get to the deductions. the tax rate. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all americans tax rates, 20%. >> chris: how much does it cost. >> it is revenue neutral. >> chris: it's not unless you take away the deductions. i'm asking you -- we'll get to that in a second. first half, lowering the tax rate. how much -- does it cost $5 trillion. >> no. no
in the emergency room? why didn't obama say that? you talk about social security and medicare people? they're part of your 47%, you want to drop them from the list of eligible americans. you don't have any care for these people, we've got it on tape governor. what you think of these people. don't come out here and pretend that you care about old people because you met somebody at the campaign event. where was obama tonight? he should watch -- well not just "hardball", rachel, he should watch you, the reverend al, lawrence, there's a hot debate going on in this country, here on this network is where we're having the debate. we have our knives out we go after the people and the facts. what was he doing tonight? he went in there disarmed. he was wait an hour and a half, i think i can get through this thing. where as romney. i loved the split screen, staring at obama, addressing him. he did it just right. i'm coming at an incumbent. i've got to beat him. and i don't care what this guy moderator whatever he think he ises because i'm going to ignore him. what was romney doing? he was winning. >> he was
, inelegant, a problem talking about it, what it is a referendum on obama policies and the state of the economy. what we've seen are incomes falling and people have less income due to paying taxes on and getting more he deduction and less tax income liability. ahead of that, too, though, we've seen a lot more complexity introduced into the tax code, we've got deductions, if you fill out your own 1040 how difficult it is if you're not taking the standard deduction, what your tax liability is. this is something coming down the pipe with a romney administration or more republicans in the house and senate we should be be considering when he we're talking about tax reform. stuart: okay, but it is accurate to say that in the obama years, a larger proportion of people are not paying any federal income tax and that the spike occurred in the obama years in part because of obama politics, is that accurate? >> well, the spike has occurred, really, over the past 20 years and i've seen incomes falling and heard the stat over and over again, how we've got personal wealth falling under obama po
, it would have already worked. so is this really obama's version of economic patriotism? let's talk. here's jimmy william and cnbc contributor of the american enterprise institute. what is so bloody patriotic about tax hikes, spending increases, regulatory increases and a lousy, worst economy since 1947? >> i'm worried what we will see in 2013 if the president wins is an economic patriot act. and part of it will be dramatically higher taxes on wealthier americans, entrepreneurs. anyone who thinks the end of the obama tax hikes are going to be raising it back to the clinton levels are crazy. you are going to see surtaxes, surtaxes on corporations. there's no way the obama spending numbers work without dramatically higher taxes far above what we saw in the clinton years. >> one of these things has my goat. obama talks about cutting tuition, you can't cut tuition if you expand student loans, is inflated tuition costs across the country and created a trillion dollars of debt that this country and the kids that get the debt can't possibly afford. this is like everything government does turns o
balance he's insisting that romney has changed his plan because he wasn't giving the obama talking points. >> well now hold on. >> the democrats have mischaracterized romney's plans up the ying yang. so when he comes forward and tells what his plans are it's a shock. they think he's lying, they think he's changed. >> it was a game changer in this respect. before the debate republicans around the country were wondering if mitt romney was going to take down the whole ticket because his campaign had been so ineffective. after the debate they were convinced he wasn't going to. he definitely had a good evening last night. whether or not it's enough to change the momentum in the race we'll know in the next few days. with respect to the plan all the democrats have done ills put a price tag. 20% across the board tax cuts make them permanent. >> that's a lie. what he said it's going to be cost neutral. >> he didn't say that until last night. >> that is just not right. he said it when he rolled it out. he said it in his speeches. >> he hasn't said how he's going to raise any revenue to make up for
sides of the aisle have talked about some of the challenges obama will have in the debates. hugh hewitt has a piece out in which he talks about one of obama's debate tales which is feigned outrage that someone would dare to interrupt him. he says when this happens, his coun ten nance displays a disapprovinger. >> and voice clouds with displeasure, it is practiced and profoundly anti-democratic and arrogant. if he plays this card on this stage it will backfire. if kerry is filling in for romney against this debate, you know, against obama in debate prep, is he preparing him for more than just substance? is he also preparing him for these stylistic what-ifs? these moments where obama could be pulled in one direction or the other and trying to sort of hedge against that? >> well, i think the biggest disadvantage obama has right now is practice. mitt romney's had a lot of debates. he went through a long primary practice where he got beat up a lot and got to beat up other people. barack obama had no primary process and has not been in a debate since his debates in the last election. so i thi
. the bombshell of the widely covered speech at hampton university features senator obama talking about the federal government's response to hurricane katrina. >> when hurricane andrew struck in florida, people said look at this devastation. we didn't expect you to come up with the almighty hand. down in new orleans, where's your dollar? makes no sense. tells me the bullet hasn't been taken out. >> conservative pundits defined this as racial rhetoric obama makes the point that problem's actions were not racial bias. >> look at what happened in new orleans and the gulf coast when katrina hit. people asked me if they thought race was the reason the response was so slow. no, this administration was color-blind in its incompetence, but everyone here knows that the disaster and the poverty happened long before the hurricane hit. >> while the video does, perhaps, notding the president' at re-election, dusting off the vintage tape does return the focus to the man the gop wishes would actually disappear or shape shift into a nonhuman form. president george w. bush. >> if the republicans want to
. when we come back we'll tell you what president obama did right and talk about which pundits and politicians actually got it right before the debate. >> so i have absolute confidence when we get to thursday morning, we'll be shaking our head it's a brand new race. >> cenk: it sucks that he was right. did president obama take it easy on romney because fox has been charging over the last two days he's an angry black man? >> what is happening in new orleans? what is your dollar? where is your money? (vo) john fugelsang sees what happens. >> you know, blaming this economy on barack obama is kinda like blaming your hangover on the guy making breakfast. i like mitt romney but i'm sorry. they guy has flipped more than a crack house mattress. this campaign has become so toxic, beverly hills housewives are now injecting it into their foreheads. (vo) so current gave him a weekly show. >> i love romney's debate style, but i tell you, if i could be that stiff for 90 minutes, i'd ... (vo) we probably won't regret it. alright let's break it down. mom, pop it. ♪ ♪ two inches apart,
do all the talking for them because he makes compelling case against obama. this is the second or third gaffe just this week. we are talking about almost all of the increase on the backs of businesses. it is hard to understand how you create more jobs for this economy if you are putting or taking money out of the pockets of the businesses that create them. joe biden was saying we are proud of the fact we are socking it to the businesses and to the rich people. i find it somewhat offensive, actually. >> is there any way when you raise people's taxes by $1 trillion the middle class is unaffected? >>guest: it is interesting if you look at congressional budget office report and i seldom cite the c.b.o., they say that if you do the fiscal cliff and the huge tax increase next year we don't have less than percent unemployment, we go up to over 9 percent unemployment, a double dip recession. that is not moving failure, that is moving backward. >> today we learned the 2012 deficit had exceeded, now, $1.1 trillion. more than $1 trillion, four years in a row. >>guest: what a record. that
analyzing what obama said that was untrue and what mitt romney said that was untrue. let's talk about mitt romney's tax plan. he wants to cut everyone's rate by 21%. is it true that that would cost $5 trillion? yes or no? >> reporter: well the question is how do you shape it? the question for romney is not necessarily that he's telling an untruth it's that he's not giving us any of the details. he says he can reduce rates and not a net tax decrease because he'll get rid of loopholes? which hoop holes will you get rid of? he named cutting funding for pbs. that's a small part of the budget. it's not necessarily that he's saying an untruth it's just that he's not filling in this very big and important part of the equation. >> which is how you make up for it. >> thank you. frank luntz talked to undecided voters. in the next half hour we'll hear what they had to say and how that could impact the race. >>> violence in syria spread into turkey. turkish are a littlery pounded syria throughout night and a new crisis began wednesday when a mortar fire from syria landed in a turkish border town. holl
increase across the board, and when obama talks about the middle class and protecting the 47%, let's use the 47%, the truth is in retail business, this is has an effect on every product sold in the stores. when you buy -- neil: why more of an effect on the polls? >> they are not talking about. i don't know why they are not talking about it. go out, speak to the retailers, the business people that we've been speaking to, and this is what they'll hear. they are going to hear that they are getting squeezed dramatically. they are getting squeezed from all sides, and 5 lot of it -- a lot is basedded on what they pay because of fuel. in addition to that -- neil: no doubt. do you think there's a disconnect, bernie, between the bosses and the folks who work for them? in other words, talk to consumers and their surveys. they are not robust or off the charts, but better than the bosses polled on the same question, and seem much more pessimistic. >> well, they are pessimistic. the problem is most employers are not explaning this to their employees. they are not going to the employees saying, hey, l
a lot of this campaign is mitt romney and barack obama talking about how they would work in washington. and as we know the american public are so frustrated right now with how washington is operating or is not operating at all. so there's a lot on the line for mitt romney, barack obama tomorrow night. tens of millions of people will be watching. of course, a lot here on cnn. there is over 3,000 journalists who are actually credentialed to come and cover this debate. 700 of them are from other countries. so the whole world will be watching. >> and jim lahr is the moderator for debate number one. how long do the candidates get to answer the questions? because some candidates are pretty long-winded. >> reporter: they are, and that's going to be the struggle and one of the challenges for the moderator torrow as well as the other debate moderators, including candy crowley who will be moderating a debate later this month. 30 seconds to about a minute to answer a question. and of course there's a rebut l rebuttal. if we do see sharp exchange back and forth, sometimes the train can get off th
. i have a problem of characterizing it as racism and i think it was pointing to obama talking to an audience. >> it was still running in the press. days after the debate, the one that did not favor obama, we know this is the nature of campaigns. how could resurface and point the finger at the other guys? >> up next after this break, what is my husband doing here? talking about marriage, affairs, wall street, and scandals. you will find out after this break when he joins me live. stay tuned. and the most disturbing story of this day, this girl suffering from cerebral palsy, teased by another kid and his father. the video and the fallout is coming up just ahead who would think that a grown man would tease a 10-year-old disabled girl. it that has never done anything to them for no reason or it now she doesn't want to get on the bus and go to school. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. boom! get it! spin!
are differences we can talk about, whether that's under obama care or not. but let's have the philosophical difference. he believes the competition is going to drive it. there was a pole today. 93% of seniors like medicare the way it is. >> wait. they're not going to like the 716. >> at the very early polling right after the debate, did the president seem to falter at all? >> previous debate performances haven't been that strong. for all of the joking about the expectation, the president is really good at conversation and speeches. debates have been a little more of an awkward format. again, i thought governor romney won tonight in terms of what was in front of us. i think we're going to see some fallout from that. so, you know, i think what the president did was he was slow. he was deliberative. he laid out facts. this was a policy dream to have these long answers with lots of facts. we were joking before about the old saturday night live skit where they thought there would be no mass. >> when you're the incumbent, i've been there, it's more difficult. it just is. >> and on that note, let'
you agree with, tap agree. >> reporter: president obama got his biggest spike of support when talking about education. when mr. romney after a fairly positive reception, his opening remarks did not fair nearly as well with the liberal leaning college crowd as the debate went on. as a journalist, i have to mention it wasn't just romney and obama that they were weighing in on tonight. they also weighed in on the moderator who got rave reviews for the most part. major spikes online. anita. >> interesting. okay. well, we decided to have a little fun as well with tonight's debate. we posted four words and asked our friends out there count them. how many times are they saying them. joining us now is our social media editor. when the bug words came up with what we as journalists are expecting from the debate. >> we had an informal news poll and the words we came up with were middle class, jobs, economy, and american people. president obama mentioned the middle class and income 18 times and mitt romney's most said word was job and jobs which he mentioned 23 times. american people was the leas
, but a senior obama campaign adviser talked about it this morning. >> if the republicans want to defend the bush administration's response, i'm sure the president would give him time during the debate to do that. >> an attempt to change the subject from romney's comments made in a video that surfaced last month. he said 47% of americans are dependent on the government. tara for cbs news, the white house. >> now we should note that the romney campaign says it had nothing to do with the release of that video tape. or the rerelease of the video tape of that speech since it happened five years ago and was covered at the time. but joining me now here at u.s.a. today election headquarters is paul singer. he is politics editor and he'll be taking part in the fact check that will keep you up to date on what's going on in that debate tonight. you have poll numbers that have been rolling over, giving us an idea of who is up and who is doing. show it to us on the computer. >> we have this poll tracker which we have built with our partners. it gives you the opportunity to go through and see in t
obama doesn't seem inclineed to talk directly to the liberals. both campaigns sorely so -- clearly see the independent vote in the middle. the obama side either deciding the race or romney's side pushing them into the margin of error that right now has them on the losing end. and those campaigns are almost word-for-word, brian, said the exact same thing. tomorrow, we're talking to independents. >> tom fitzgerald tonight. the debate airs tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. i'll have a completianup on the news edge at 10 and the news edge at 11. >>> another big story tonight, today marks 10 years since the d.c. sniper's terrorized our region. ten people were killed during a three-week shooting spree. three people were shot and survived. mohammad and malvo were captured and convicted. mohammad executed in 2009, and malvo serving a life sentence and paul paul wagner and i covered the attacks extensively and we'll talk about some new developments and it's well- covered you smoke with charles moose. i spoke with him about three years or so ago and found a different person then than during the attacks and
." david, in 2008 candidate obama talked about this war as the war we must win. this time around he notedly talks about winding down the war. mitt romney didn't even mention it in his convention speech. why does this not seem to be a major interest in a campaign? >> the stakes are so high, lester, as you know being on the ground there. i think there's a couple of reasons. from the republican point of view, they want distance from the bush presidency, particularly the bush foreign policy of engagement in war in afghanistan and iraq. from the president's point of view, he wanted to narrow the focus, talk about al qaeda, defeat al qaeda. the crowning achievement killing osama bin laden. the nation building work in afghanistan is frankly something that became too difficult, too entrenched for the american people to keep up with. we are there longer than the soviets were there. i think there's a recognition that job was simply too difficult, the notion that we were going to turn around the government, really be able to rebuild the country. there is a phrase that general petraeus used, was iraq g
at the debate hall. president obama's expected to arrive in denver any minute as well. we'll be talking with top supporters of each candidate. the former new york city mayor rudy giuliani, he'll join us live this hour. also we'll be hearing from both candidates' wives in special cnn interviews. today, by the way, is the obama's 20th wedding anniversary. so what's it like spending the night with the romneys? i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >>> 34 days from the presidential election but much more importantly right now at least right now we've reached what may be the most decisive night of the 2012 campaign, the first presidential debate at the university of denver. after weeks of downplaying expectations, mitt romney's campaign insiders are finally opening up about what they really think can be accomplished tonight. cnn's national political correspondent jim acosta is in denver getting ready to set the scene. jim. >> reporter: wolf, the romney campaign sees the polls moving in their directions. one of the top priorities tonight is to maintain that trajectory. the romney campaign
to make obama be the one who is dividing and talking about class warfare. romney's choice of word about middle income is interesting. >> the focus group gave president obama points for taking on governor romney for not having a back up plan on obama care. let's show that club. >> you said that he's going to lose deductions and loopholes. for his tax plan. but we don't know the details. he says that he's going to replace dodd-frank, wall street reform but we don't know exactly which ones. he won't tell us. he now says he'll replace obama care and assure all the good things in it will be in there, and you don't have to worry. >> frank this seems to be getting at the point that david axelrod and david plouffe were making after the debate in trying to spin this is that romney is a secret guy, he won't tell you what he's going to do when he gets rid of obama care or what he's going to do on taxes but did obama effectively make that case? >> he made the case. and that was one of the rare case where the republicans were dialing him at a 60 which is a relatively positive. the difference here is
of "meet the press." david in 2008 candidate obama talked about this war as the war we must win. this time around he notedly talks about winding down the war. mitt romney didn't even mention it in his convention speech. why does this not seem to be a major interest in a campaign? >> the stakes are so high, lester, as you know being on the ground there. i think there's a couple of reasons. from the republican point of view, they want distance from the bush presidency, particularly the bush foreign policy of engagement in war in afghanistan and iraq. from the president's point of view, he wanted to narrow the focus, talk about al qaeda, defeat al qaeda. the crowning achievement killing osama bin laden. the nation building work in afghanistan is frankly something that became too difficult, too entrenched for the american people to keep up with. we are there longer than the soviets were there. i think there's a recognition that that job was simply too difficult, the notion that we were going to turn around the government, really be able to rebuild the country. there is a phrase that general pe
folks would say obama talked longer and the obama side would say romney talk longer. >> president obama talked about 5 minutes or so -- 4.5 minutes more than romney. but i think romney was better. less was more. on the side of the room, yes, sir. >> i was wondering, have you seen any differences in the senate races where republicans associate with the tea party? if not, how could turn out affect that? -- how could turnout affect that? >> there are a lot of important races in november, not just the presidential. i do not know the answer. there are a lot of very close senate races, like charlie was talking about, in states that product -- in states that romney is probably going to win. missouri, north dakota, arizona. there are 4 states where democratic senate candidates are running very competitively with republican candidates in republican states. i just did a poll and joe connolly was ahead by two points. another truism of american politics is that people usually vote their party. i think that is going to be an interesting dynamic the next 4.5 weeks. massachusetts is a good example fro
, president obama talked about human trafficking, the fbi has put together a task force to deal with this. there are a record number of federal prosecutions taking place all across the country. traffickers are being given much steeper sentences. really what the federal government is trying to do, they're trying to tamp down on this problem before it gets so explosive that they just can't even dream of putting it back in the bottle. that's going to be a difficult challenge. >> thank you very much. it's a difficult topic but needs to be discussed. people need to know about this. appreciate. it next weekend, you will hear from some of the women who as young girls were sold for sex. take a listen. >> by a show of hands, how many of you were raped? how many of you have scars because of what you went through, physical scars? emotional scars? how many? how long does it take to heal? >> you may never -- you may never heal. >> stories of struggle, survival, and what life is like inside the world of sex trafficking. that is next saturday night, 7:00 eastern. don't miss that. >>> next in the cnn new
talk. peter from ireland says george bush was the problem, not obama. let us know what you think. join in the conversation right here on "worldwide exchange." we'll get to some of your comments a little bit later in the show. time for a quick break. still to come, we'll bring in a democratic and republican strategist to grade the performance of president obama and mitt romney. >>> welcome to "worldwide exchange." these are your headlines from around the world. an aggressive mitt romney comes out swinging in his first debate with president obama. the two men sparring over how to fix the u.s. economy. waiting on spain, the ecb expected to hold steady on rates as central bankers meet today. country's president tells cnbc that europe's policymakers must remain focused. and madrid sees solid demand and yields coming down as the finance minister heads to london to raise funds for the country's bad banks. if you're just tuning in, thanks very much for coming along. ross will be back tomorrow. but i'm here for the next 30 minutes to run you through what's going on on the markets around the wor
it was good. >> i'll bet you if you asked both supporters to romney folks would say obama talked longer and they -- >> president obama talked about five minutes or so. 4.5 minutes more than romney but i think romney's -- romney was better. less was more. the side of the room, yes sir? >> my name is ben salisbury. i was wondering if you have seen in the close senate races any difference between races where the republicans are associated with the tea party and if not, maybe how turnout would affect that? >> that is, there are a lot of important races in november. not just the presidential and i think, i don't know the answer because what i was thinking was there were a lot of very close senate races that charlie was talking about in states that from my perspective that ron is probably going to win like indiana, missouri, north dakota, arizona. probably more. there are four states where democratic senate candidates are running very competitively with republicans in republican states and some are even ahead. i just did a battleground survey in indiana with a republican pollster and joe donn
does recklessly. boater said president obama was bidding we talked about his grandmother and social security tonight. there were equal responses on this evening. it is important for us to stress that our smartphone alling is certainly not scientific poll. you who all of participated. nightline will have a complete debate wrap up at 1135. -- 11:35. >> tonight, police have issued after a teenager vanishes. seen monday morning. car inves found his city at a park. is live at the agh school where he is student. on the the latest search. last place anyone spoke to brian. he is a senior here. his dad said he left his cell morning,home on monday is out of thethat ordinary. something that is a concern, he cash on him and his not been used since sunday. >> somebody out there know something. >> an urgent plea for some in rick -- with a family plea a desperate family member. >> he needs to be found. >> it was 7:15 monday morning his brother was dropped off. i said i would find a parking spot. >> it was just another monday until brian did not come home from football practice. realized he never t
for the night which will focus on domestic policy. president obama joking about it yesterday, talking to a supporter at a phone bank in nevada. >> they're keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they're making me do my homework. >> mitt romney put his spin on the debates last night, as well, at a rally in denver. trying to frame how they would be judged. >> and what, in my view, it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself, it's -- it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. and the american people are going to have to make their choice as to what kind of america they want. >> based on the latest cnn national poll we showed you, there is a lot at stake. the candidates within the margin of error on each other. sean spicer is the communications director for the republican national committee. he joins us now from the republican national committee headquarters in washington, d.c. and sean, do you agree with republican nominee mit
barack obama can be heard praising his former pastor jeremiah wright. he talked in his speech about wanting to him all this sorts of help to poor people. then candidate obama was talking about iraq war veterans with post traumatic stress disorder. but i'm sure it's better politics for the right if they shorthand iraq war veterans as poor people while also calling mr. obama angry and describing him as having an accent. it's not subtle but i'm
. then candidate obama was talking about iraq war veterans with post traumatic stress disorder. but i'm sure it's better politics for the right if they shorthand iraq war veterans as poor people while also calling mr. obama angry and describing him as having an accent. it's not subtle but i'm sure they think it's great politics. so tonight has been an unsettled big night. tomorrow night is going to make tomorrow look like a traffic
obama's talked about reducing the corporate rate to 28%, but he hasn't specified how he'd pay for it. and then you have the issue of jobs. romney talks about the job record on net from the beginning of president obama's term. and if you do that, it's just about even. maybe a few jobs in the positive territory. but barack obama talks about what's happened since early 2010 since the turnaround started. they'll clash on that. on medicare, the big entitlement spending issue that threatens the bunch the long term. mitt romney's proposed with paul ryan an ambitious reformation of the program that would go to voucher, but he hasn't said what the level of the voucher would be or the growth rate in the voucher. if you don't specify that, you can't specify what your savings will be or the impact on consumers. and finally president obama last year in the grand bargain talks with house speaker boehner talked about more ambitious proposals than medicare than he's advocated so far like raising the eligibility age from 65 to 67. hasn't said a word about that in the election campaign so far. you can
to that question we just talked about obama will say, no, answer that question and that will generate an exciting back and forth and make for a great debate. sfeefrnlt it all goes down that way. james, thank you so much. have fun in denver. >>> coming up, former pennsylvania governor ed rendell joins me live what does he make of the new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll shows president obama and governor romney tied with a among voters would an interest in the leeks. >>> earlier today, the president tweeted 20 years ago today, i married the love of my life and my best friend. happy anniversary, michelle. first lady, twitter replay, thank you for being an incredible partner, friend and father every day. i love you. "ever ask somebody to lend you a foot?" "who thinks about stuff like that?" "vince mahe grew up on two continents... and noticed that wherever you go, people have their hands full, but their feet free." "the result? a liftgate you operate with your foot." "code name?" "open sesame" "the all new twenty thirteen ford escape. it's what happens when you go further." >>> our special prime
perhaps will be obama coming after him, not him coming after obama. >> chris, when you talk about the president potentially going after mitt romney, do you mean in terms of stylistic aggression, or do you means in terms of trying to nail him as a flip-flopper or going really aggressively against his policies. which do you mean? >> i would say this. you are promising something new. you keep saying i've got something new. everything you've said sounds like what we got rid of because we had a disaster. as you showed with this excellent opening tonight, we came out of disaster because of those policies. tell me how you're going to be different than w. say the word "w.," you don't even want to say that word. admit where you came from. and then force him to get out there on the cliff and say, i'm going to get rid of the homeowner deduction, get rid of the charitable deduction, because that's the only way you have revenue neutrality in these tax cuts he's talking about. his only plan for economic improvement in this country is to cut the taxes mainly of the rich. that's his only plan. th
. >> senator obama, thank you so much for talking with us. >> i enjoyed it. >> chris: don't be a strange. >>> i won't. >> chris: but that was april 27, 2008. it has now been 1,617 days since the president's is last appearance. and although senator biden appeared on "fox news sunday" 35 times is, it has been 1,841 days since the vice president last talked with us. in the meantime we and you have had a lot of questions that have gone unanswered. we will invite them again for next sunday. up next with the first presidential debate now just three days away we will ask our sunday group what to look for wednesday night. [ male announcer ] for the dreamers... and those well grounded. for what's around this corner... and the next. there's cash flow options from pnc. solutions to help businesses like yours accelerate receivables, manage payments, and help ensure access to credit. because we know how important cash flow is to reaching your goals. pnc bank. for the achiever in you. oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a back
talk about it but also is because we keep forgetting about obama. what does obama need to do? >> president obama is leadion in the polls nationally now and leading in the swing states so the question is how do you reaffirm the existing status quo, in a sense the sale has been made. and he is just there not to seeking any short of dramatic moment. he just wants this thing to happen and be history. for mitt romney i think the problem is and i think this came out in your interview, >> gretchen: chris, suddenly you hear the republicans talking about a choice election. bill kristol said look you got to go at obama's record and make it not only about what he has done in the past but what he is likely to do in the future. that is what the prescription will be for the republicans. most people will watch the debate and a lot of people will watch. they think about 50 million people. a huge audience. if those people come together table are going to make up their mind that would be one thing. most of those people have already made up their minds. i think they are watching for the human m
missing opinions. he talks about america and another four years with obama. we look at how it is run the 2012 campaign how it is conducting foreign policy how it paralyzed economic growth and solutions being offered by the romney, ryan ticket and do they have the country's answers? because the donald has been less than silent on the abysmal obama record he like so many on the right have been subjected to ridicule by the president and his team out of chicago. >> can the president do more to show leadership on being transparent with regard to documents, records, his own background that's another underlying theme the campaigns are going at. >> are you talking about donald trump? >> i know he has been taking flack lately but no one is happier no one is prouder to put this birth certificate record to rest than the doll nald. >> looking to continue to bring up is college records. >> the donald trump question which i think he is the one who brings it up the most. >> last year at this time on this very weak end we finally delivered justice to one of the world's most notorious individuals. (a
it now? >> no. not at all. >> the guy said obama couldn't talk frankly because is he black, marianne, and you say, what? i say that's not true. >> fight back that's not true. powers, what do you say? >> it's insane. that's not true and insane. why do these people do it? i mean, if this injecting race into this. >> they are trying to make excuses for a very bad performance. >> the air was too thin al gore and he couldn't talk because is he black. >> desperation, really it is. >> bill: desperation too kind a word. insane. that was accurate. >> bad night. >> i want to talk to you moment about this senate race in massachusetts with brown and warren, you you are not involved in this are you, marianne, are you working for warren? >> i am not, members of my firm are, however. >> bill: the polls say it's about even, right? >> that's right. very close race. in a state where barack obama is expected to win by at least 20 points here at least 12% of reporters want to send a democrat for a second term. she has every advantage right now. the problem is she has got to close a deal. this is a state
at obama's history people don't like getting tougher. they are afraid to talk like you are supposed to talk. i don't know what it is. john mccain was always gentle and nice when it came to president obama. i thought he was far too nice i didn't understand it. i didn't understand obama as well either. maybe it didn't register the same way. but if you look at what mitt romney is doing, i think he has to get it. he is a terrific guy, a smart guy. he's a wonderful guy. great family man, mitt. he has to get tougher with respect to president obama. >> lots will depend on these debates. if you look at mitt romney had double digits lost by double digits. got beat in two debates by newt gingrich and rose to the occasion. he only has three chances in this case. he has to come out of the box. there seems to be this fear about taking on the president in a tough way. you think some of this is race? when you were running you were putting your hat in the ring the race card was brought up against you. you spent your entire life helping people of all races in the city of new york. >> that is true. a lot of
president obama get it? does he bother talking to his generals like that one right there? his intel people? or is he too busy campaigning in sin city? dana, you cringeed a little bit when we listened to president obama in vegas saying again, al-qaeda is dead -- bin laden is dead, al-qaeda on the way out. scary, though. >> dana: this morning i read the "new york post" and i noted he quoted president obama saying that line at the democratic national convention. i was going to bring it up in this segment. i didn't realize president obama said it again yesterday. you would think even stump speech that should be refreshed and keep up with the times. they are talking to multiple audiences at the same time. in this case, he is talking to the american troops, our allies, fighting with us. our enemy and directly to the american people. those messages aren't necessarily always going to be the same. but it seems careless to suggest that al-qaeda is on the wane if in fact your general last night on "60 minutes" is saying the opposite and we have evidence that al-qaeda was behind the attacks in libya.
. [applause] i will be able to talk to president obama in a way no one else can about how the economy works. we are one nation under god. >> that did become a debate moments in this primary season. >> right. it is an interesting moment. it is a moment i think may replicate itself in general election debates. i cannot imagine obama will let this question and the tax returns go unremarked. what you see there is a couple of things. romney really pivots. he uses the initial question to swing us over to obama and the democrats and how they are against wealth, supposedly. there is also the reaction from the audience. one of the thing that was striking about this year's round of primary debates was the role of that live audience and how they became the influence and how people are perceiving them. in general election debates, the audiences seem to be much more behave. clearly, the audience played a big part in the whole tone of that clip you showed. >> warren decker, these candidates have lines and talking points. how you come across conversationally rather than sound like somebody who is regurgit
trickle down -- his trickle-down approach as he said yours is. >> obama: let me talk specifically about what i think we need to do. first we have got to improve our education system. and we have made enormous progress drawing on ideas both from democrats and republicans. that are already starting to show gains in some of the toughest to deal with schools. we have a program called race to the top that has prompted reforms in 46 states around the country, raising standards in how the train teachers. i want to hire another 100,000 math and science teachers. and i want to make sure that we keep tuition low for our young people. when it comes to our tax code governor romney and i both agree our corporation tax rate is too high. so i want to lower it particularly for manufacturing. but i also want to close those loopholes that are giving incentives for companies shipping jobs overseas. i want to provide tax breaks for companies investing here in the united states. on energy governor romney and i both agree that we have got to boost american energy production and oil and na
energy that barack obama. now we are coming back to you a little laterr on in the show and talk about romney. we tried to talk about barack obama. undecided voters switch the topic. we'll get back to it. back to you. >> steve: minutes before the top of the hour. the president debuted a new catch phrase. economic patriotism where the rich pay more. is that what it means to be patriotic. we'll ask a member of the president's finance team. and a high school heist that was all too real for julianne moore, you will find out more straight ahead. ♪ . note you got to change your evil ways, baby. ♪ before i start loving you. ♪ you have on got to change, baby. ♪ and every word. by making it without 100% real cheddar cheese. but then...it wouldn't be stouffer's mac & cheese. just one of over 70 satisfying recipes for one from stouffer's. >> gretchen: the president argued last night for a new economic patriism. this was in the debate. what does that mean? here is the president. >> governor romney has a perspective that said if we cut taxs and skew toward the wealth scheroll back regulati
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-qaeda has grown. in afghanistan, president obama did talk a lot about afghanistan. good war in 2008. that's one of the things they said they would finish it up because it would disrupt the ground and make sure we have democracy and everything. if he wants to change the mission, remember, when he annoyed date certain for troops leading, he had not spoken about afghanistan for a year. you cannot keep the american people rallied behind a mission of troops if you never talk about it. you're not clear about what we're trying to achieve. part of the problems if you announce a date certain, everybody in afghanistan, figuring out their alliances, just lying in wait. karzai has had to make a political decision unfortunately not in america's best interest. i'm afraid that our great grandchildren will have to go home. >> eric: which is? karzai's political decision is? >> dana: well, i don't know for sure, but he has to consider who are the power brokers in his country. we're not going to -- >> bob: karzai is a bug on a truck. >> dana: be that what h may, he is the president of afghanistan. >> bob: h
of talking about each other, president obama and mitt romney talked directly to one another meeting on stage for the first time for their first debate. mitt romney and president obama speaking about their plans to fix the nation's economy. >> governor romney has a perspective that says, if we cut taxes, skew towards the wealthy and roll back regulations that we'll be better off. i've got a different view. >> i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so what i do is i bring down the tax rates. >> reporter: the republican nominee revealing his plan to reduce the deficit. >> what things would i cut from spending? >> i will eliminate all program by this test if they don't pass it. is the program so critical, it is worth borrowing money from china? if it's not, i'll get rid of it. >> governor romney rote what we did in massachusetts could be a model for the nation. >> as president, i will sit down on day one, the day after i get elected, i'll sit down with democratic leaders. >> he will also repeal obamacare on the first day which will not be very popular among democrats as you are sitt
taken anything terribly serious about the debt. i mean, at least obama is talking about raising taxes and revenue and i don't think we know what romney's plan is, he won't share any details with us. i'll tell you what though, you say everything is about cutting spending. you know, gary, europe has been cutting spending like crazy and look where europe's headed. their talk, a lot of evidence that they're in recession now, because they've been way overaggressive about austerity and i don't think that would be good for the u.s. >> there's a lot of differences between us and europe, toby, what do you think this plan, this specific economic patriotism plan will do to debt and to the economy here in the u.s.? >> well, of course, debt is going to go up. remember, this is a code word. patriotism is a code word for we'll borrow another, and borrow another, if you take the spending wave structure and take it out ten years, we get to that point like greece, like spain, where it's a point of no return. there is a point at which, when interest rates go up and of course, they will, and as interest
to his nostrils and say, boop. for instance, when obama is talking during the debate i'll interrupt him and say that's what she said? ha, ha, ha. gets them every time. last week, my campaign leaked a memo telling everyone to lower expectations for my performance in these debates. as we all know barack obama is an extremely gifted speaker. you might even say he's a master debater. that's what she said? you got zing. you got zing. >> i don't know, man. fallen is giving zadakas a run for his moment on this romney impression. >>> here's the latest. >> mr. president, china is demanding that the u.s. pay back its debt in full immediately. failure to do so will bring on financial apocalypse. you need to look into that camera and convince the people of china we are good to pay back that debt. >> why you got to play me like that, china? when you loan that money to my predecessors, did you really think you were going to get it back? >> china's not budging but we have just had the results back from your latest presidential physical and it tornadoes out you have telepathic powers. look into that ca
? >> the president obama looks nothing like the candidate obama. he talked about lowering the deficit in half, not redistributing wealth. and not, as he said, hurting the taxpayer and getting rid of broad and things like that. i think these economists look at numbers and they see reality, they feature $6 trillion in debt. and they figure it is time to move on. neil: having said that, they seem to have crunched the numbers and looked on the weakness of this recovery and concluded maybe a fresh start is in order. but doesn't factor in a smart money angle that we are missing? smart money seems to be saying that there is not much money for this recovery to be had. >> will look at their records. we have president obama who hasn't had any experience in the private sector and we have governor romney who does understand. america, yes, we do need a ceo in chief. we also need someone who understands that the business leadership to be able to broker and work in washington where there is a lot of polarized politics. governor romney is adjusting policies that democrats and republicans can agree. we need t
barack obama like you have never seen these days. we will talk a little bit more about that. frankie valli joins us on couch. hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. >> 8 minutes before the hour. final preparations are underway for the first presidential debate tonight. peter doocy joins us live from washington with more. hi there, peter. >> as you know mitt romney and president obama do a lot of talking about each other at rallies and in interviews and they hardly ever have anything positive to say. tonight they will have a chance to say whatever it is they want to their opponent's face for the first time. tonight's debate in denver will be moderateed by jim leerer and will be split up between 6 segments the first focused on nt economy followed by lines of questioning about other dop stick policy issues including healthcare and since both sides know there will be ten's of millions of voters
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answer. he personalized it and talked about an american he met on the road. that's what obama is so good at. and so i think you're looking at a guy who's very well prepared. president obama has been in plenty of debates and he has plenty of things that he can talk about to direct positive thinking about his campaign. and i think tonight, unfortunately, it pains me to say it, i think there are some lefties out there that are probably questioning it right now. i'll say it again. it's a story that we're going to have to cover. we need definition from the president on exactly where he's going to go on social security. this is a huge opening. >> i think it's very important before we close the chapter on this, mitt romney made, mark my word on this ed, very serious mistakes tonight. he committed himself to things that starting next week, with joe biden is going to haunt ryan and haunt him in these next three debates. >> i don't see that. >> i think whatever your judgment or my judgment or anyone's judgment on president obama, it will come back to serve him well that mitt romney committed himse
: southern california is beautiful. connell: you heard from president obama talking about the jobs report this morning at a campaign rally in virginia. we expect to hear from it romney any minute. he is also in virginia. wayne rogers joins us from pensacola, florida to talk about this. what was your first reaction to the jobs report? >> not a lot is being done. we already know that number or anything around 8% 41% will be adjusted again but anything around 8% tells you a lot of people left the work force permanently that are not going to be there. maybe the new level should be something instead of 4% should be 6% or 7%. i don't know. let me ask about a political argument. connell: we established the fact that we don't think it is a good idea for mitt romney to say this number is not valid or funds somehow that there is an argument to be made that it is not that great so how should mitt romney formulate his arguments of 7.8%? >> he should talk about the fact that this is not good and after four years you would think this guy came into office saying the audacity of hope. there's no hope for
that president obama came out of the conventions with a little bit of momentum. you talk, it is not only showing up in the public polling that we're talking about here today but talk to republican pollsters polling on senate and house races and they will talk about what they call the clinton bump. they have seen it across polling in various parts of the country that voters who are asked a question is the country on the right track, is the country on the wrong track, which most pollsters believe the single best determiner ho will win in november, there was a jump in the right track number, even if they don't specifically agree with how the president is handling the economy, on the general question whether we're on the right track, they think we are, because you think in part democrats successfully pressed this message that nobody could have done better than president obama's done. gregg: on the economy, the president leads romney by one. on taxes, it is the reverse. romney leads by one. but on government spending, this is really amazing, mitt romney leads by 17 points. does he need to exploit tha
decreased. we're in fewer states. you're not seeing, for example, the obama campaign talked about maybe we'll go into arizona or texas and georgia. they didn't. the obama campaign had long been looking at pennsylvania and michigan. they didn't. remember, in florida eight years ago we were talking about democrats playing missouri and even west virginia at one point or throwing money down to get the other side to spend money or compete and while republicans were looking at places like washington too. where's new mexico? >> robert, one of the things john cohen head of the polling team said it is fascinating the split between the engagement of young voters in swing states and voters in non-swing states. that's where this is being waged. that's where we need to check with enthusiasm. >> i was listening to liz a few moments ago. it feels a lot like 2008. not necessarily from an enthusiasm point. but the math looks almost identical to 2008 in many ways. president obama, let's face it. has has multiple paths to victory. mitt romney does not. the question becomes whether or not wednesday becomes a
turning pink, too. those are your 5@5:00. >>> talking politics now president obama and mitt romney have the first debate tomorrow in november. >>> we have a new poll that is out but it hasn't done much for the politics the national average for the polls. it was up 3 and a half points. the national picture remains very, very close. one of the swing states is the scene of the debate. he got last minute campaigning he got a last minute endorsement from quarterback john elway. he is preparing for a much more critical stage on wednesday. >> these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. american people are going to have to make their choice as to what kind of debate they want. it will be a conversation with the american people that will span almost an entire month. >>> the university of denver is still being set for the three debates. president obama is spending time at a nevada resort. he runs through rehearsals. >> what i am most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to do to keep the country gro
a double job. he's got to talk to those swing voters who are disaffected about president obama, but then make sure his base turns out and he's got to get the base enthusiastic. now, what the base wants and those swing voters want maybe two different things. >> but how many people are still undecided? >> this many. >> but there are still people who are persuadable. >> have debates really persuaded them. >> john kerry, going into that first debate, was seven points behind. after that first debate, he was only two points behind. now, we know he ended up losing because president bush came back and did a better job in the second debate. but it did narrow the gap for john kerry. >> we're learning that mitt romney's debate preparations get kind of mean at times. we're going to hear from michelle obama and ann romney on their debate advice. one of them gets moesh. we'll be right back. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desk
had no answer. mitt romney said president obama you talk about a few tax breaks for the oil and gas industry. you have given much more tax breaks to the alternative energy energy and you have nothing to show for it. president obama just looked at him. at the end of the day barack obama couldn't engage on substance last night. the facts aren't going to get any better between thousand and the next two debates. the alternative energy market is not going to start working in the next two weeks. the obama economic policies aren't going to be working in the effect two weeks. it wasn't about style. it's about substance and obama not being able to stand on his own record. that record is not going to change between now and the next debate. martha: thank you for being with us today. bill: president obama telling the american people there is one pledge he will always keep. >> four years ago i said i'm not a perfect man and i'm no won't be a perfect president. that's probably a promise governor romney thinks i have kept. you i promised i would fight every single day for the american people and t
're talking about today and essentially we're talking about obama's plan. we're talking about his campaign messaging, and we're talking about all the ways in which mitt romney has been lying. that's pretty much across the board. so score one for the campaign if they lost some cool points in terms of obama's persona in the debate itself. >> karen, there's been this hand wringing by some democrats over this perceived low performance by the president, but was it really such a fiasco? mitt romney is the ron jeremy of political campaigning. every day he's in a different position. how do you nail custard to the creeling? how do you do that? i don't know how you do that. >> exactly, yeah. >> look, can i just remind you that al gore won the debates. did he end up being president? no, he did not. >> john kerry. >> john kerry won the debates. he also did not end up being president. >> yeah, but, karen, i think what's different this time around is the absolute falsification that took place last night. it was breath-taking. it was almost -- well, it was shakespearean in terms of its performance. >> an
troubling parallel that barack obama is drawing there. bill: in the speech he talked about the spirit of empathy. i think that was around the enron time, because he talked about the employees of enron feel that they've been violated. how did that fit into this argument, or this speech that he was make stph-g. >> yo making? >> as far as that goes i agree. enron was run by a bunch of crooks, and they deserved to go to jail and many of them did. obviously there was justifiable anger, people lost their retirement and pensions, but to equate that as he does later in the speech saying, well, you know, a community has had this company there, it's provided jobs for many years, and the company decides to shut down, because of economic conditions, that's a form of violence, you know, that could be used to justify all kinds of behavior, and not just union strikes, but actual union violence. bill: you pointed to a ""washington post"" interview in 2007. that is five years ago. what emerged from that interview that caught your eye? >> well, barack obama was the community organizationer. the father
thursday last night. it wasn't -- it was president obama stumping in ohio, and talking jobs. >> who here has a job? okay. there we go. there we go. what do you do sir? >> i'm a manager at burger king. >> there you go! having it your way. and where were you four years ago? probably working the counter, right? >> i was a vice president for bank of america. >> there you go. >> he does such a good job. >> such a good job. >> gng to be an interesting couple of weeks. all right, thanks, john. appreciate it. president obama, the real president obama, is going to be campaigning in d.c. today. and a new memo that's been obtained by cnn shows that the romney campaign is apparently trying to lower expectations for the presidential debate. the first debate, of course is on wednesday. and in that memo romney adviser beth myers tells campaign surrogates there are several reasons that she believes the president will be likely to win the first debate, including this reason. here's a quote. this will be the eighth one-on-one presidential debate of his political career. for mitt romney, it will be his fir
over 10 when president obama took office. president obama is talking about everything but his record, because he can't run on his record. mitt romney needs to have a very broad, bold statement about what he would do as president, and contrast that very, very plainly with the current performance of president obama. obama does not want to talk about the current economy and his current performance, because he knows under that debate he loses. >> if it's all about -- if it's all about record, can mitt romney run on his record and appeal to those that are the ground base of his own party to come out? >> absolutely. the ground base -- the most important thing not only for his side, but if you look at hispanics and women and a variety of voters, the most important topic they're interested in is the economy. it's the economy. i hate to quote james carville, but it's the economy, stupid, once again. part of why people are focusing on anything but the economy is because economic news is not good. they have not passed a -- any budget much less a balanced budget in years. it is unbelievable. >>
to be talking about the debates for the rest of the show. barack obama and mitt romney, the rumble in the rookies. >> did you just make that up? because i love it. the rumble in the rockies. >> somebody will be talking about the meltdown in the mile high city tomorrow. we'll just keep the i il lit reaction going. i've been on the show before, seen a bunch of these debates. there's a debate about the debates going on about whether or not debates matter. do you think debates matter? call here at 866-55-press. give us a call, let us know, do you think that debates matter? >> this morning as we talk about debates, i can't help thinking about what's going on with mitt romney right now, mitt romney running for president and for most of his campaign been talking about one single issue the economy the economy, the economy. >> i think president obama is talking about something else that's bigger, leadership. mitt romney hasn't been talking about leadership. the thing that happens in these debates is do they give us a moment, do they give us one particular moment where we know that the argum
side supporters romney side would say obama talked longer and the opposite. president obama talked about five minutes or so, wasn't it? >> four and a half minutes more than romney but i think romney's was better. >> this was less was more. >> yes, sir. >> i was wondering if you're seeing in the senate races any differences between races where the republicans associated with the tea party and if not how turnout at the top of the ticket could effect that? >> there are a lot of important races in november, not just presidential. and i don't know the answer because what i was thinking is there are a lot of very close senate races that charlie was talking about in states that from my perspective that romney is probably going to win like indiana, missouri, north dakota, arizona and probably more. there are four states where democratic senate candidates are running very competitively with republicans. i just did a background survey in indiana with a republican pollster and joe donnelly was ahead by two points. and the other thing in american politics is people usually vote the party line.
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